The Leaven of Truth

by Thomas Abshier | Sep 11, 2025 | Consciousness/Physics/Spirit

The Leaven of Truth: A Conversation About Consciousness, Reality, and Societal Transformation
by Thomas Lee Abshier and Charlie Gutierrez
9/11/2025

This conversation is a dialogue between two individuals grappling with profound questions about the nature of reality, consciousness, and how transformative ideas spread through society. At its center lies Thomas Abshier’s “conscious point physics” theory and its potential to challenge materialistic worldviews, set against the backdrop of what they perceive as a cultural war between competing visions of truth and morality.

The Theory and Its Implications

Thomas presents his Conscious Point Physics as a revolutionary framework that could fundamentally alter humanity’s understanding of reality. The theory that consciousness and divinity are woven into the very fabric of existence, challenging the materialistic assumption that we are merely “a clump of cells, no more.” This represents a direct assault on what they see as the philosophical foundation of secular materialism.

Charlie recognizes the profound implications: “A universe without purpose and meaning is inherent to a materialistic worldview, which implies that we’re a clump of cells, and no more. The Conscious Point Physics theory challenges the validity of that worldview.” Here lies the crux of the argument. Materialistic worldviews strip life of its inherent meaning, which can lead to moral nihilism.

The Eastern Connection

Given Thomas’ many years studying and practicing Eastern religious traditions, he suggests that “the essence of the Buddhist and Hindu search for enlightenment is actually only about understanding this one thing that is obvious in the Conscious Point Physics theory” – namely, that the universe, all matter, and beings exist within, and are of the substance of, the oneness of God. Thus, Conscious Point Physics can serve as a bridge between Western scientific methodology and Eastern mystical insights. It is possible that what contemplatives have sought through meditation and spiritual practice may now be accessible through rigorous theoretical physics.

While many practitioners of Eastern traditions have long pursued this understanding of fundamental unity, “very few of them actually get that profound, life-changing realization of that fundamental oneness.” This scarcity of genuine realization, whether in Eastern or Western contexts, underscores the difficulty of the transformation they pursue. This reminds us of Matthew 7:14, “Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.” The casual study of physics probably will be as fruitful as casual meditation in deeply realizing the fact of the Oneness behind all of creation. For the Western mind, and possibly all cultures, the weight of scientific evidence and overwhelming confirmation of examples of inductive proof validating the truth/factual reality of the Conscious Point Physics, will stand as an strong argument for the empirical-logical inductive evidence of God’s existence (for the Christian) and an easily visualized picture of the oneness of God and His creation (for the Buddhist/Hindu/Sikh/New Ager…).

The Challenge of Cultural Transformation

The dialogue extensively explores the mechanics of how revolutionary ideas spread through society. Charlie employs the biblical metaphor of leaven, suggesting that transformative change requires only a small percentage of committed individuals – perhaps as little as the .2-5% yeast to dough ratio – to influence the entire “lump” of society eventually.  If mixed thoroughly throughout the dough, the yeast affects the whole loaf within a few hours. The key to rapid transformation is seeding the loaf with active/potent yeast into every part of society. A small but active influence can produce a rapid and dramatic transformation of society’s heart.

Thomas wants a miracle, and Charlie counsels patience, warning that “this is not rapid rise dough. It’s real leaven… it has to be mixed in and rise over society. That could take decades or more.”

This tension between urgency and patience reflects a deeper question about the nature of lasting change. Is genuine transformation of consciousness something that can be hurried, or must it unfold according to its own organic timeline?

The Problem of Communication

We will face a significant challenge in communicating complex ideas to a general population that lacks the conceptual framework necessary to understand them. Thomas’s interaction with his electrician illustrates this state of scientific ignorance. When the electrician was asked if he was familiar with the most widely known physics concepts like quarks and string theory, his response was, “No.” Thomas didn’t pursue telling him about the significant nature of his discovery. Taking a person from no knowledge of the empirical-theoretical conceptions of the universe, and then taking that to an even deeper level, required too much background to be laid for the profound cultural/societal and personal implications of this theory to be appreciated. This interaction possibly revealed the rarity of such prerequisite knowledge and puts the task of spreading the word into perspective.

Charlie astutely observes that most people are “swimming in water” – completely immersed in materialistic assumptions without realizing it. They’ve been shaped by a scientific worldview that “painted the movie set” of their reality without their conscious awareness. This creates what Charlie calls “the arduous task of changing reality” itself.

Universal Salvation and the Scope of Truth

The conversation touches on theological questions about universal salvation, with Thomas expressing his belief that “God desires everyone to be saved.” This connects to Susan’s (mentioned but not present) growing conviction that “by hook or by crook, everyone will make it” – a radical position within Christianity that challenges traditional notions of eternal damnation.

This theological perspective aligns with their broader optimism about the transformative potential of truth. If consciousness and divinity are truly fundamental to reality, then perhaps no one is ultimately beyond redemption or transformation.

The Light of Christ and Natural Goodness

Thomas has rationalized the relationship between divine grace and natural human goodness, as he agrees with Susan’s observation that many non-Christians demonstrate remarkable moral character. He argues that such goodness reflects “the light of Christ” working even in those who haven’t explicitly accepted the Christian faith.

This leads to his distinction between those guided by “the light of Christ” and those driven purely by “animal impulses.” He suggests that before the flood of Noah, people’s hearts were dark, without the light of Christ, since the Holy Spirit did not come until Jesus sent Him after His resurrection and ascension. In the days of Noah, we see in Genesis 6:5 “And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.” We do not live in such a time, before the Holy Spirit spoke to men’s hearts. Perhaps it was a time when men had only the voice and urges of animalistic existence and passions for survival without the moderating voice of divine guidance.

The Urgency of the Moment

Throughout the conversation runs a sense of historical urgency. Thomas mentions a self-imposed deadline of “26 months for this to reach 84 million people,” suggesting he sees his work as connected to prophetic timelines. The discussion of Revelation potentially coming true “in our lifetime” adds to this apocalyptic tension.

This urgency is heightened by their perception that society is engaged in a fundamental spiritual war between forces of life and death, truth and deception. The challenge becomes whether Thomas’s theory can provide sufficient grounding for those committed to truth and life to “stand up and say, Absolutely not and No.”

The Paradox of Elite Knowledge and Democratic Truth

An interesting tension emerges between the highly technical nature of the theory and its supposedly universal relevance. While the conversation acknowledges that “the scientific crowd, who will understand that they’re a specific little niche,” it’s precisely this niche that has “painted the landscape for the rest of us.”

This raises questions about expertise, authority, and democratic access to truth. If reality’s fundamental nature requires advanced physics to understand, how can its implications become accessible to ordinary people? The answer seems to lie not in technical comprehension but in experiential realization – the recognition that “everything’s a miracle” that Charlie claims to have maintained throughout his life.

Conclusion: The Stakes of Consciousness

Ultimately, this conversation presents consciousness itself as the battleground for humanity’s future. Against a materialistic worldview that reduces human beings to meaningless arrangements of matter, they propose a vision where consciousness and divinity are fundamental features of reality itself.

Whether this vision proves scientifically valid matters less than its potential to restore meaning, dignity, and hope to human existence. As Charlie notes, even if it “just saves one,” it would be worthwhile. But their deeper hope is that a genuine understanding of consciousness might serve as the leaven that eventually transforms all of human society.

The conversation reveals both the profound ambition and the practical challenges facing anyone who seeks to alter humanity’s understanding of itself fundamentally. It requires not just intellectual innovation but the cultivation of what they call “the Gideons” – a small band of individuals so convinced of truth’s reality and power that they cannot remain silent about it.

In the end, their dialogue suggests that the future of human civilization may depend less on political or technological developments than on whether consciousness itself can be properly understood and its implications fully embraced.