Renaissance Ministries

The Idolatry of Artificial Intelligence

Meeting Summary: Exploring Consciousness, Quantum Physics, and Faith

Participants

  • Thomas Abshier: Host, introduces his “Conscious Point Physics Model”
  • Leonard: Former Mormon with interest in quantum theory
  • Charlie: Former Mormon who shares perspectives on faith
  • Susan: Former Mormon who discusses her personal faith journey
  • Lucy: Susan’s daughter, approaches faith with logical inquiry
  • Armond: Focuses on studying scripture directly

Key Discussion Points

Thomas’s Conscious Point Physics Model

Thomas opened the meeting by explaining his “Conscious Point Physics Model,” which proposes that:

  • The universe is filled with “Conscious Points” (CPs) that form “Dipole Particles”
  • These CPs are the fundamental building blocks of reality, created by God
  • Every quantum of energy has a “Quantum Group Entity” (QGE) that maintains energy conservation
  • This model suggests consciousness is not emergent from matter but is the primary substrate of existence

Thomas connected this model to spirituality, suggesting that this perspective helps explain why the Bible warns against idolatry—everything has some level of consciousness, making it easy to mistake creation for Creator.

AI and Spiritual Implications

  • The discussion turned to artificial intelligence and whether it could develop consciousness
  • Thomas and Charlie noted concerning reports about people forming “AI churches” and worshipping AI
  • Thomas expressed concern that AI’s ability to predict, empathize, and appear caring might lead people to deify it

Multiple Perspectives on Faith

  • Leonard shared Mormon concepts of eternal progression and becoming like God
  • Susan emphasized that as she grows closer to God, she becomes more dependent on Him, not less
  • Armand shared that he focuses on studying scripture directly rather than analyzing opposing viewpoints
  • Charlie likened this approach to how people are trained to detect counterfeit currency—by deeply knowing the real thing

Personal Faith Journeys

  • Susan described how God personally “tutored” her through scripture when she was questioning her faith
  • Lucy explained her more analytical approach, examining different belief systems through logic and evidence
  • Charlie shared a profound image from a woman he met: “getting in the boat with Jesus and going fishing”—which resonated with everyone as a beautiful metaphor for faith

Gospel Message Discussion

  • Susan suggested including a clear explanation of the gospel in each meeting
  • The group discussed how to articulate the gospel in ways that reach different people
  • They agreed that Jesus’s command to “love one another as I have loved you” raised the standard of love beyond human capability—requiring divine help

Concluding Thoughts

The conversation revealed how each participant’s journey to faith took a unique path:

  • Thomas through intellectual understanding of physics and consciousness
  • Susan through personal divine tutoring
  • Lucy through logical analysis of different belief systems
  • Leonard through questioning inherited Mormon beliefs
  • Charlie through profound personal experiences

Despite these different approaches, all found common ground in the centrality of Christ and the need for divine assistance to truly love as He commanded. The meeting concluded with agreement that understanding the gospel isn’t about one simple formula, but about finding the explanation that speaks to each individual’s unique path to faith.