Insanity, Disease and Viruses

Meeting summary

Quick recap

The meeting began with technical discussions about linear actuator drawings and video production updates, followed by an in-depth conversation about mental health, sanity, and spiritual transformation. The group explored various perspectives on sin, perfection, and the mind of Christ, while sharing personal experiences and biblical interpretations. The conversation ended with updates on ongoing projects including a new physics theory, political involvement, and property developments, along with discussions about communication and trust in relationships.

Next steps

  • Leonard: Complete the documentation and drawings for the Walk Away design.
  • Leonard: Continue making changes to the Traveler drawings based on Charlie’s redlining feedback.
  • Leonard: Purchase a larger tool from Harbor Freight to disassemble the linear actuator without damaging it.
  • Charlie: Assemble a lift walker using used parts for the local pilot who had a stroke.
  • Thomas: Finish editing Isaac’s video script for next week’s presentation.
  • Thomas: Complete and publish his physics theory on Vixra soon to prevent others from taking credit for his work.
  • Thomas: He will probably be unavailable for next week’s meeting due to his trip to Coeur d’Alene and driving back to Kalispell during that time through an area without cell phone service..
  • Thomas: Drive back from Coeur d’Alene on Sunday morning to pick up Andree from the airport at noon.
  • Thomas: Use the Webinar link that was sent to everyone individually for meeting next week.

Summary

Linear Actuator and Video Updates

Leonard discussed his progress on the linear actuator drawing, mentioning he needs a larger tool to remove a retaining ring due to the lead screw interference. Thomas shared the history of the walk-away design, which Charlie confirmed was intended for a local pilot who needs immediate assistance. Thomas also explained that Isaac’s video was not completed this week due to script editing challenges, and a new video with a different presentation style will be ready next week.

Mental Health and Social Influence

The group discussed mental health and sanity, with Charlie sharing his personal reflections on his past mental state and how society defines sanity. Thomas shared Bible verses about God not being the author of confusion but of peace, and they discussed how peace can be a marker of non-confusion. The conversation touched on how different social environments, such as the Mormon church, can influence socialization and mental health, and Thomas shared his own experiences growing up in the desert as a loner.

Perceptions of Sanity and Mental Health

The group discussed experiences of feeling “functionally insane,” with Charlie sharing how postpartum depression and her first marriage contributed to this feeling, while Armond described his work with at-risk youth and his belief that advocating for righteousness makes one appear insane by societal standards. Thomas and others contributed personal reflections on mental health and societal perceptions of sanity, particularly in religious contexts, with Charlie noting how leaving the mainstream LDS church relieved some pressure and improved his mental state.

Understanding Mental Health and Disease

The group discussed the nature of sanity and mental health, with Leonard sharing his personal experience with his brother’s schizophrenia and expressing concerns about how mental health is understood and treated in society. They explored the contrast between the germ theory of disease popularized by Pasteur and the terrain theory proposed by Antoine Beauchamp, with Thomas providing historical context about the development of medical theories and treatments. The conversation concluded with Thomas expressing skepticism about alternative medical approaches while acknowledging the complexity of understanding disease causation.

Viral Toxins and Drug Mechanisms

Leonard shared his personal experience with bacterial encephalitis and his observations about COVID-19, suggesting that the virus might be more about toxins than a living entity. Thomas agreed that viruses are not alive but can hijack cellular machinery, and he explained how ivermectin works by inhibiting cell multiplication, though he noted it should not be taken regularly. They discussed the complexity of viral replication and the challenges in developing effective antiviral medications, with Thomas mentioning Remdesivir’s failures in clinical trials.

Exploring Spiritual Understanding and Love

The group discussed spiritual analogies and the nature of reality, with Thomas sharing his philosophical journey and questions about the soul. Charlie shared a story about teaching a Sunday school class and using ants as an analogy for understanding the body of Christ. The conversation then shifted to questions of sanity and the mind of Christ, with Armond quoting Ephesians 6:12 about wrestling against spiritual wickedness. The group explored how to discern the mind of Christ and the importance of love in distinguishing between what is from God and what is not.

Journeys of Growth and Choice

The group discussed personal experiences of transformation and growth, with Charlie sharing how he chose to leave a church meeting to spend time with his son, illustrating the challenge of discerning between competing good options. Thomas described his own journey from functional insanity to greater mental health, while Armond emphasized the commitment to continuous improvement rather than perfection, noting how this shift in perspective can make previously accepted behaviors seem irrational. The discussion concluded with reflections on the concept of perfection in Christianity and the importance of making conscious choices about right living, including dietary and environmental considerations.

Jewish and Christian Perspectives on Sin

The group discussed biblical passages from 1st John, contrasting verses about sinlessness with Jesus’ statement about those who claim to have no sin deceiving themselves. Leonard explained that the Jewish perspective on sin and salvation was fundamentally different from the Christian understanding, noting that Jews believed in collective rather than individual sin and viewed the laws as sufficient for salvation. The discussion concluded with Charlie reflecting on how recognizing the insanity of societal norms, like the treatment of slaves in Huck Finn, helped him understand that his feelings of being sane in an insane world were not solely his own experience.

Sin, Transformation, and Abiding in Christ

The group discussed the concept of sin and abiding in Christ, with Thomas explaining that 1st John verses teach that those who are truly born of God do not commit sin, emphasizing a transformation of the heart rather than perfection. Armond distinguished between committed sins (done with malice) and sins that occur when one misses their mark while trying to serve the Lord, suggesting that intentional evil actions are of the devil, while unintentional mistakes can be corrected through rededication. The discussion concluded with Leonard sharing his belief that some individuals, like Elijah and Enoch, have achieved a level of spiritual transformation where they no longer sin, and that this state of abiding in Christ will be necessary for binding Satan during the millennium. Lucie told story about Charles Manson and a government mind control experiment involving LSD. The group then explored themes of sin, perfection, and spiritual growth, with Susan sharing a relevant Bible verse.